some of this of course is based on reforms from the Second Temple period, such as letting non-priests sit on the Sanhedrin
it's kind of sad tbh that so many among us want to freeze the result of this process in time forever, and that they are considered the only true Jews
there's of course a halakhic rationale for this, being that we don't have a sanhedrin anymore at all that can rule on such matters
this began good and is now rambling and silly
@kittybecca idk about silly. The Conservatives have a Sanhedrin-like council. This is a time of changes... Hopefully we can get through this without a lasting split.
@derpayatz non-chassidic haredim used to burn chassidic literature and absolutely refuse to recognize chassids as Jewish
and then they decided to unite against the haskallah
who knows how things'll end up in the future but it's looking like dividing Jew from Jew is proving very useful to the powerful
@kittybecca yep. I really want to make connections with rad Orthodox people (surely they exist) and try to build some bridges for when shit gets really bad. But I don't know where to start. שנאת חינם is a big problem in our community rn and people need to get their heads screwed on properly
so, i might've been wrong about them specifically welcoming queer people, but they do say here: https://yiddishfarm.org/history/our-values
"Due to our general adherence to Jewish observance, which we view as a pillar of our people’s radical tradition, our Yiddish immersion programs stand out in so far as students are exposed, first hand, to a lifestyle that informs their language acquisition."
@derpayatz there's also like, karaites used to be recognized as Jews, but now some Ashkenazi authorities are refusing to recognize karaites, probably for some sort of consistency with respect to their views on Conservative/Neolog, Reform/Liberal, Reconstructionist, etc.
meanwhile non-Ashkenazim still universally recognize Karaites
@kittybecca there's a dirty bit of history with Karaim in the Russian Empire, I wonder if that's part of it
@derpayatz yeah i remember you telling me about that. i think it has more to do with Karaim being patrilineal
@kittybecca yeah we really need a new Rabbi Hillel rn
@derpayatz along with recognizing no authority beyond the written Torah
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