antisemitism 

it's true that anti-Zionism isn't always antisemitism, but "Zionist" can mean different things to different people, so actual antisemites will often claim to only be anti-Zionist

e.g. "most Jews are Khazars. it's not antisemitic to say that, it's anti-Zionist!"

or "freemasons control the world on behalf of Israel. it's not antisemitic to say that; it's anti-Zionist!"

to make things worse, the left doesn't always do a very good job at calling such people out on antisemitism

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in this sense "anti-Zionist" is often used the way "politically incorrect" is, to lend legitimacy to actual bigoted beliefs, though "anti-Zionist" still has legitimate uses today, unlike "politically incorrect"

Israel doesn't help this with its constant propaganda conflating legitimate anti-Zionism with antisemitism, but much of the left simply doesn't care to examine whether actual antisemites are among them.

instead, they'll do everything they can to make excuses for antisemites.

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this often takes the form of someone saying something that has nothing to do with Israel, e.g. "Jews use accusations of antisemitism as a weapon against anyone who disagrees with them," and then when this gets called out, people will try to defend the person by explaining it in terms of Israel

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@kittybecca Anti-nationalism is a better term than anti-zionism.

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@policeinchains either term can be abused, i think. any term can. it's not about the terms themselves but the sentiments and the bad-faith arguments that can get disguised behind them.

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@policeinchains the point is that terms shouldn't be thought stoppers. you shouldn't take people at their word when they decide they're going to describe their positions as _____; you should look at what they're actually arguing.

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@kittybecca Yeah, but i doubt there are many non-nationalist anti-semites. Maybe a handful.

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@policeinchains what do you consider nationalist? was Stalin a nationalist?

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@policeinchains again a problem with dealing in abstract terms; i wouldn't call Stalin a nationalist, but i would call him an antisemite because he effectively persecuted Jews.

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@kittybecca Prodhon was a non-nationalist anti semite too. There are some i agree, but not that numerous. On the other hand Anti-Zionism is a term used flappantly and oftenly by most ultranationalists to evade accusation of racism.

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@policeinchains i'd say though that it's not just used by ultranationalists, and this is the point: often antisemitism can hide under the veneer of leftism. you will hear from left-wing people who don't identify as
"nationalist" that Jews are Khazars, control all governments, or various other things, and they will call this being anti-Zionist. and many would call themselves anti-nationalist even.

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@policeinchains people who are otherwise anti-nationalist can support the causes of colonized people, and that's ok

what's not ok is when you ignore that, for example, Jews are a people who were colonized by Europeans, and that we are indigenous to that land

it doesn't make Jewish supremacy in that land OK, but to suggest that Jews living in the land are foreigners who come from Europe without qualifying this in any way is absurd

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@policeinchains Jews lived in Europe for a period after being forced out of the land by Europeans

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