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it's true that anti-Zionism isn't always antisemitism, but "Zionist" can mean different things to different people, so actual antisemites will often claim to only be anti-Zionist

e.g. "most Jews are Khazars. it's not antisemitic to say that, it's anti-Zionist!"

or "freemasons control the world on behalf of Israel. it's not antisemitic to say that; it's anti-Zionist!"

to make things worse, the left doesn't always do a very good job at calling such people out on antisemitism

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in this sense "anti-Zionist" is often used the way "politically incorrect" is, to lend legitimacy to actual bigoted beliefs, though "anti-Zionist" still has legitimate uses today, unlike "politically incorrect"

Israel doesn't help this with its constant propaganda conflating legitimate anti-Zionism with antisemitism, but much of the left simply doesn't care to examine whether actual antisemites are among them.

instead, they'll do everything they can to make excuses for antisemites.

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this often takes the form of someone saying something that has nothing to do with Israel, e.g. "Jews use accusations of antisemitism as a weapon against anyone who disagrees with them," and then when this gets called out, people will try to defend the person by explaining it in terms of Israel

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@kittybecca Anti-nationalism is a better term than anti-zionism.

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@policeinchains either term can be abused, i think. any term can. it's not about the terms themselves but the sentiments and the bad-faith arguments that can get disguised behind them.

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@policeinchains the point is that terms shouldn't be thought stoppers. you shouldn't take people at their word when they decide they're going to describe their positions as _____; you should look at what they're actually arguing.

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@kittybecca Yeah, but i doubt there are many non-nationalist anti-semites. Maybe a handful.

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@policeinchains what do you consider nationalist? was Stalin a nationalist?

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@policeinchains again a problem with dealing in abstract terms; i wouldn't call Stalin a nationalist, but i would call him an antisemite because he effectively persecuted Jews.

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@kittybecca Prodhon was a non-nationalist anti semite too. There are some i agree, but not that numerous. On the other hand Anti-Zionism is a term used flappantly and oftenly by most ultranationalists to evade accusation of racism.

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@policeinchains that's true

bakunin was also very antisemitic, even taking the protocols of the elders of zion for an authentic document. not that he was the only one.

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